How long does it take to deindex low-quality or thin content published by accident? [case study]

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I had an e-commerce company reach out to me earlier in the year for help. They wanted to have an audit completed after making some important changes to their site.

As part of our initial communication, they prepared a bulleted list of changes that had been implemented so I would be aware of them before analyzing the site. That list included any changes in rankings, traffic and indexation.

One of those bullets stood out: They had seen a big spike in indexation after the recent changes went live. Now, this is a site that had been impacted by major algorithm updates over the years, so the combination of big site changes (without SEO guidance) and a subsequent spike in indexation scared the living daylights out of me.

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I checked Google Search Console (GSC), and this is what I saw: 6,560 pages indexed jumped to 16,215 in one week. That’s an increase of 160 percent.

Indexation spike in GSC.

It was clear that digging into this problem and finding out what happened would be a priority. My hope was that if mistakes were pushed to production, and the wrong pages were being indexed, I could surface those problems and fix them before any major damage was done.

I unleashed Screaming Frog and DeepCrawl on the site, using both Googlebot and Googlebot for Smartphones as the user-agents. I was eager to dig into the crawl data.

The problem: Mobile faceted navigation and a surge in thin content

First, the site is not responsive. Instead, it uses dynamic serving, which means different HTML and CSS can be delivered based on user-agent.

The recent changes were made to the mobile version of the site. After those changes were implemented, Googlebot was being driven to many thin URLs via a faceted navigation (only available on the mobile pages). Those thin URLs were clearly being indexed. At a time where Google’s quality algorithms seem to be on overload, that’s never a good thing.

The crawls I performed surfaced a number of pages based on the mobile faceted navigation — and many of them were horribly thin or blank. In addition, the HTML Improvements report (yes, that report many people totally ignore) listed a number of those thin URLs in the duplicate title tags report.

I dug into GSC while the crawls were running and started surfacing many of those problematic URLs. Here’s a screen shot showing close to 4,000 thin URLs in the report. That wasn’t all of the problematic URLs, but you could see Google was finding them.

We clearly had a situation where technical SEO problems led to thin content. I’ve mentioned this problem many times while writing about major algorithm updates, and this was a great example of that happening. Now, it was time to collect as much data as possible, and then communicate the core problems to my client.

The fix

The first thing I explained was that the mobile-first index would be coming soon, and it would probably be best if the site were moved to a responsive design. Then my client could be confident that all of the pages contained the same content, structured data, directives and so on. They agreed with me, and that’s the long-term goal for the site.

Second, and directly related to the problem I surfaced, I explained that they should either canonicalize, noindex or 404 all of the thin pages being linked to from the faceted navigation on mobile. As Googlebot crawls those pages again, it should pick up the changes and start dropping them from the index.

My client asked about blocking via robots.txt, and I explained that if the pages are blocked, then Googlebot will never see the noindex tag. That’s a common question, and I know there’s a lot of confusion about that.

Meta robots tag and robots.txt

It’s only after those pages are removed from the index that they should be blocked via robots.txt (if you choose to go down that path). My client actually decided to 404 the pages, rolled out the changes, and then moved on to other important findings from the audit and crawl analysis.

The question

And then my client asked an important question. It’s one that many have asked after noindexing or removing low-quality or thin pages from their sites.

“How long will it take for Google to drop those pages from the index??”

Ah, a great question — and the answer can be different for every site and situation. I explained that depending on the importance of those pages, the URLs could be removed relatively quickly, or it could take a while (even months or longer).

For example, since these were thin pages generated by a faceted navigation, they probably weren’t high on Google’s list from an importance and priority standpoint. And if that was the case, then Google might not crawl those pages frequently (or any time soon). My recommendation was to move on to other items and just monitor indexation over time.

Note: I did explain that my client could add those thin URLs to an XML sitemap file once removed from the site in order to speed up the process of Google discovering the 404s. I believe my client did that based on the mobile crawl data and the HTML improvements reporting. That doesn’t mean the URLs would be immediately dropped from the index, but it could help with discovery.

The wait

So we proceeded with the remediation plan based on the crawl analysis and audit and let Google crawl the problematic pages. We monitored the Index Status report to see when those pages would start dropping, hoping that would be soon (but realistically knowing it could take a while).

And then, in late August, an email hit my inbox from my client with the subject line, “Indexation finally dropped in GSC.” It seems there was a major drop in indexation, falling right back down to where my client was before the problematic pages were indexed! In fact, there were about 500 fewer pages indexed than before the spike.

Actually, there were two drops. The first was about two months into making the changes, and then there was a much larger drop about three months in. You can see the trending below:

Indexation spike in GSC.

So, for this site and situation, it took Google about three months to drop all of those problematic pages from the index once the changes were implemented (and for that to be reflected in the Index Status report in GSC). It’s important to note that each situation can be different, and the time to deindex problematic pages can vary. However, for my client, it was three months.

Also, Google’s John Mueller has explained that the data for the Index Status report is updated several times per week, but we know the reporting graph is updated once per week. If that’s the case, then it did take Google quite a bit of time to remove these thin URLs from the index.

Google’s John Mueller explaining how often Index Status is updated (at 40:36 in the video):

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Moving forward and final tips

Mistakenly publishing thin pages can be problematic on several levels. First, your users could be accessing those thin or low-quality pages (which can impact user happiness). Second, Google can also be crawling and indexing those pages. We know that Google will count all pages that are indexed when evaluating quality for a site, so it’s critically important to know this is happening, understand how to fix it, and then monitor indexation over time.

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Bing Ads will automatically clean up legacy Content Network ad groups after Nov. 30

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Daily Search Forum Recap: September 20, 2017

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SearchCap: AdWords second line, Bing ad extensions & Google AdWords Editor update

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Below is what happened in search today, as reported on Search Engine Land and from other places across the web.

From Search Engine Land:

  • AdWords Editor update supports Shopping Showcase Ads
    Sep 20, 2017 by Ginny Marvin

    Create and edit the newest Shopping ad format in Editor.

  • Looking at marketing automation platforms? We compare 14 vendors
    Sep 20, 2017 by Digital Marketing Depot

    Virtually every marketing automation platform provides three core capabilities: email marketing, website visitor tracking and a central marketing database. From there, vendors begin to differentiate by providing additional tools — which may be included in the base price or premium-priced — that offer advanced functionality. This MarTech Today buyer’s guide compares 14 leading B2B marketing […]

  • Anatomy of a Google search listing
    Sep 20, 2017 by Stephan Spencer

    There’s no perfect method to snagging the top overall search result for every relevant query, but columnist Stephan Spencer believes that understanding each element of Google’s search listings can give you the best chance for success.

  • 3 reasons SEO is the account-based marketer’s secret weapon
    Sep 20, 2017 by Nate Dame

    A lot of B2B brands are discovering the powerful influence of account-based marketing (ABM) strategies, but is it enough? Columnist Nate Dame outlines why ABM needs SEO, and how they’re better together.

  • Account-level ad extensions now available in Bing Ads
    Sep 20, 2017 by Ginny Marvin

    The update is currently rolling out globally.

  • Ahead of the holidays, Google Merchant Center sees substantial upgrades
    Sep 20, 2017 by Greg Finn

    Tools to edit values, conform to specifications and list in multiple countries make modifying feeds easier than ever.

  • Google kills test of second description in search ads
    Sep 20, 2017 by Ginny Marvin

    The additional line of ad copy is no longer eligible to display.

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Google kills test of second description in search ads

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Daily Search Forum Recap: September 19, 2017

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Here is a recap of what happened in the search forums today, through the eyes of the Search Engine Roundtable and other search forums on the web.

  • Google: Shopping Cart Abandonment Not A Search Ranking Factor



    Google’s John Mueller said that having a high shopping cart abandonment rate is not a specific issue with ranking in Google. It is not a ranking signal…

  • Does The Time To Fetch & Render Indicate Possible Google Crawling Issues?



    Andrew Shotland asked Google’s John Mueller an interesting question around the fetch and render tool in the Google Search Console…

  • Google Keeps Debunking 301 Redirect Dilution Myths



    For the past couple years, Google has been trying to communicate that 301 and 302 redirects pass full PageRank…


  • Google AdSense Ad Balance Tool Now Back



    Google posted on the AdSense Google+ channel that the ad balancer tool which is a tool that can be used to show less lower paying ads on your site…

  • Google Logo For Amalia Hernandez – 100th Birthday Of The Mexican Ballet Dancer



    Today on Google’s home page in the US, Mexico, Canada and many other regions is a special Google logo, Doodle, for Amalia Hernandez. It would be her 100th birthday today…

  • Google Ski Lift & Hot Air Balloon Cart

    Here is a photo I found on Instagram of a room at Google where they have an indoor ski gondola lift and a hot air balloon cart side by side. I am not sure of the purpose of the room but it looks like
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  • Google is removing my images after I optimized my site speed, WebmasterWorld

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SearchCap: Google AdWords addiction ads, Bing on links & Google Home mini

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Below is what happened in search today, as reported on Search Engine Land and from other places across the web.

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  • Report: Google to debut ‘Home Mini’ smart speaker for $49 on October 4
    Sep 19, 2017 by Greg Sterling

    The device is Google’s answer to the low-cost Amazon Echo Dot.

  • SMX East early bird rates expire Saturday. Register now!
    Sep 19, 2017 by Search Engine Land

    The sun is about to set on SMX East early bird rates! Join thousands of search marketers and learn the latest SEO and SEM tactics at SMX East, October 24-26 in New York City. Act now for big savings. Here’s what’s in store: 58 sessions, keynotes and clinics featuring proven, actionable tactics on paid search advertising, […]

  • Bing says links are still a very important ranking factor
    Sep 19, 2017 by Barry Schwartz

    A recent interview with a Bing representative suggested links will be downplayed for rankings in the near future. But that is not currently the case.

  • What SEOs need to know about Baidu in 2017
    Sep 19, 2017 by Hermes Ma

    Interested in breaking into the Chinese search market? Columnist Hermes Ma shares some recent Baidu updates, along with SEO advice for those trying to rank in the Chinese search engine.

  • An integrated approach: From SEO to PPC and beyond
    Sep 19, 2017 by Chris Liversidge

    Columnist Chris Liversidge shares highlights and insights from two industry events where integrated search marketing was a hot topic this year.

  • Google iOS app now makes related content suggestions
    Sep 19, 2017 by Greg Sterling

    An expandable carousel at the bottom of the page will show related stories and content pages.

  • Google gradually limiting search ads on addiction treatment queries
    Sep 19, 2017 by Ginny Marvin

    Another side effect of the opioid epidemic: A marketing environment ripe for abuse.

  • Amalia Hernandez Google doodle celebrates the Ballet Folklorico de Mexico founder
    Sep 19, 2017 by Amy Gesenhues

    Today would have been the dancer and choreographer’s 100th birthday.

  • 8 major Google algorithm updates, explained
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    Almost every day, Google introduces changes to its ranking algorithm. Some are tiny tweaks; others seriously shake up the SERPs. This cheat sheet will help you make sense of the most important algo changes and penalties rolled out in the recent years, with a brief overview and SEO advice on each. Read on or get […]

  • Google Search lets readers find e-books at their local libraries
    Sep 18, 2017 by Amy Gesenhues

    The new search feature is currently available on mobile.

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Report: Google to debut ‘Home Mini’ smart speaker for $49 on October 4

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Google is set to reveal the Pixel 2 smartphone and potentially other hardware at an event on October 4, in time for holiday shopping. While the Pixel 2 is set to be the star of the event, a prominent supporting role will be played by the new “Google Home Mini.”

This is apparently Google’s answer to the low-cost Amazon Echo Dot. According to Droid Life, it will be priced comparably at $49 and be available in three colors.

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The device will support the Google Assistant and reportedly will provide the same functionality as Google Home. It’s all but certain the sound quality won’t be as good. And there may be other hardware compromises to bring costs down. It will very likely broaden the market for Google Home and the Google Assistant.

Amazon has created multiple Alexa devices for different budgets:

  • Dot — $49
  • Echo Tap — $129
  • Echo — $179
  • Echo Show — $229

Amazon often discounts the devices and offers multiple purchase incentives, including on the Dot. To date, Google has only introduced the Home, which retails for $129 but is often discounted to $99. Apple’s Siri-powered HomePod is going to retail for $349 and is positioned as a higher-end smart speaker for the Sonos demographic.


An integrated approach: From SEO to PPC and beyond

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For most businesses, the summer season means a slow-down in industry events — but for digital marketers, there is no rest! My company was out in force at both The Turing Festival and BrightonSEO this year, both of which represent fantastic forums for knowledge-sharing and networking.

Reflecting on what were hugely insightful conferences, I’d like to run over themes that stood out to me — and how digital marketers can put insights drawn from them into practice.

Attendees of both conferences were spoiled for choice: Speakers from the world’s largest and most inspiring companies, including Google, Moz and Skyscanner, headlined stages. Members of our paid search team were particularly wowed by the session delivered by Wil Reynolds, the founder of Seer Interactive.

Breaking down silos

Wil Reynolds’s background commanded the audience’s attention from the get-go with a story that is still relatively unusual in the marketing world. Originally an SEO expert who turned to PPC, Reynolds suggested that the notion of switching between elements of search marketing shouldn’t be unusual in 2017, but that it unfortunately still is.

Typically, search professionals specialize in either paid or organic search and rarely move from one to the other. However, combining these skill sets can strengthen a marketing team and add value to the services it delivers to its clients.

I think that’s an important lesson for marketers, whether agency or client-side. Integrated marketing strategies are more effective than siloed efforts, and we have no shortage of case studies to that effect here at QueryClick.

Describing how he broke out of his own silo and combined SEO with PPC, Reynolds highlighted how the two areas of search complement each other — a message that resonates with me personally as a marketing professional who recognizes that an integrated approach delivers the strongest results.

A holistic approach

In a modern digital marketing world, however, the merging of skills goes far beyond mastering both SEO and PPC. The way people consume content has drastically changed over the last decade. The rise in mobile media consumption has led to a diverse range of content platforms, and marketers now have extensive opportunities to tailor their messaging and reach their target audiences.

To ensure consistency across platforms, today’s brands demand an integrated approach with a cross-skilled team that breaks down silos, produces more meaningful data and offers them more bang for their buck.

Running organic and paid search campaigns simultaneously (with a single point of truth in reporting) allows integrated marketing teams to define the keywords that have the highest conversion rate and therefore determine the themes that will optimize a brand’s overall digital marketing strategy. To work effectively, however, it must be rolled out across SEO, PPC, social media, PR and conversion rate optimization (CRO), with each team working closely together in order to achieve the brand’s end goals.

Bridging the gap

Of course, there are risks to adopting an integrated approach. There can be a huge disconnect between PPC and SEO campaigns, for example, and work must be done to bridge the gap between both disciplines. Ensuring that the work of the SEO and PPC teams complement each other, and that they can yield valuable data and insights for that work, should result in campaigns that are more targeted and relevant to the brand’s audience.

I’ve written before about how you can integrate paid and organic search behaviour in a blended “Halo” report, and I think it’s just one example where integrating channels provides significant insight value to both channels.

Of course, creating an integrated strategy is an art form as much as it is a science, and without the appropriate tools at hand, it’s not always possible. Power BI, a data visualization tool which can pull deeper integrated organic and paid metrics together, can help marketers present a visual representation of PPC and SEO activity live, allowing both teams to move away from working and reporting in silos and allowing an instantly accessible “single point of truth.”

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During the conclusion of his session at The Turing Festival, Reynolds pointed out that it is important to recognize that SEO and PPC look at the world differently. He described PPC professionals as being akin to “creative accountants,” working to meticulous precision, and suggested that SEOs are more like “poker players,” keeping their cards close to their chest.



Google Search Algorithm Update On September 16th

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I was incredibly tempted to do a special alert news story Saturday night on a Google algorithm update that seems to have touched down Saturday morning or late Friday but I decided to see how the Sunday chatter around it would be. In short, I noticed an unusual number of people complaining about the Google search results in the ongoing WebmasterWorld thread and some on Black Hat World starting early Saturday.

But Sunday and this morning, the chatter significantly died down. Some say whatever happened Saturday morning, it reverted back the next day. We have seen this before, it may have been a bug or something else but the chatter has 100% died down a lot.

Here is some of that Saturday chatter:

Thing are looking strange today, my bounce rate is up, and my page per session are down, Traffic is down marginally, too early to know for sure if it is significant. This after a few weeks of slowly but steadily growing traffic.

We’re seeing a strong increase yesterday and today (compared to the same days last week), but it’s probably because of the big, big increases in Texas and Florida traffic now that the hurricanes have moved on. (Florida is running 122 percent ahead of last Saturday, for example, and the day isn’t over.)

Things Reverted to poor traffic on FRIDAY 15th and SAT SUN.. so whatever happened has gone back to #@$ now. =/

Total drop in traffic with sessions down over 20% on the week. Must be that “anomalous” overshoot of 4.3 clicks that triggered the hammer. Over the week, data insights were all sunshine and unicorns, yet end of week tally is a loss. smh – perhaps it was the hurricane murmuration. lol

Yes, most of the tools also went nuts on or around Sunday. Here are screen shots:

Mozcast:

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SERP Metrics:

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Accuranker:

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RankRanger:

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SEMRush:

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Algoroo:

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And now that Google says these tools are often right – and we have webmaster chatter – maybe something went wrong on Saturday with Google’s search algorithms?

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